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آماده کردن اسب برای استقامت و تغذیه اسب چگونه است ؟
آموزش استقامت و تغذیه ؟؟؟؟؟
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OJANG
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در مسابقه استقامت باید یکسری فاکتور ها را بدانی.
در چه مسافتی شرکت میکنی؟
برای چه مسابقاتی و در کجا آماده میشه؟
چقدر زمان داری؟
معمولا برای یک مسابقه استقامت به حد اقل 8 تا 10 هفته زمان نیاز داری که این دوهفته اختلاف مربوط به آمادگی قبلی اسبه.
نوع تمرین ها از سبک سبک به سبک به کم فشار و به آماده سازی نهایی تقسیم میشه.
از یکهفته قدم در مسافت های رو به رشد تا روزی 3 تا 3.5 ساعت چهار نعل بلند.
در مورد تغذیه به این مسایل دقت بشه
آب در دسترس حیوان باشه و یک تا یک و نیم ساعت قبل از شروع تمرین دیگه آب نخوره.
علوفه تر ممنوع و در رژیم غذایی مقداری سبوس با آب گرم هفته ای یک یا دو بار در مقدار کم .
خوراک با توجه به مواد :پروتئین-ویتامین-هیدرات کربن- انرژی- چربی تامین شود.
میزان خوراک در اسب در حال تمرین در سه هفته اول :نسبت فعالیت به غذا:1:1
در کار سبک میزان غذایی که اسب باید بخورد بین 2 تا5/2 در صد وزن بدن اسب است که فرمول بدست آوردن وزن بدن اسب:
وزن بر حسب پوند=طول بدن * (دور کمر)
300
از ویتامین های گروه B-A-D و همچنین تعادل بین کلسیم و فسفر غافل نباشید
یونجه- جو خیس شده نرم –کاه- کنستانتره- میوه از قبیل سیب هویج و کاهو - ملاس چغندرکه جذب انرژی را آسان میکند –ذرت-ودر هوای سرد دادن مقدار کمی روغن کبد ماهی را در رژِیم غذایی بگنجانیم.
در چه مسافتی شرکت میکنی؟
برای چه مسابقاتی و در کجا آماده میشه؟
چقدر زمان داری؟
معمولا برای یک مسابقه استقامت به حد اقل 8 تا 10 هفته زمان نیاز داری که این دوهفته اختلاف مربوط به آمادگی قبلی اسبه.
نوع تمرین ها از سبک سبک به سبک به کم فشار و به آماده سازی نهایی تقسیم میشه.
از یکهفته قدم در مسافت های رو به رشد تا روزی 3 تا 3.5 ساعت چهار نعل بلند.
در مورد تغذیه به این مسایل دقت بشه
آب در دسترس حیوان باشه و یک تا یک و نیم ساعت قبل از شروع تمرین دیگه آب نخوره.
علوفه تر ممنوع و در رژیم غذایی مقداری سبوس با آب گرم هفته ای یک یا دو بار در مقدار کم .
خوراک با توجه به مواد :پروتئین-ویتامین-هیدرات کربن- انرژی- چربی تامین شود.
میزان خوراک در اسب در حال تمرین در سه هفته اول :نسبت فعالیت به غذا:1:1
در کار سبک میزان غذایی که اسب باید بخورد بین 2 تا5/2 در صد وزن بدن اسب است که فرمول بدست آوردن وزن بدن اسب:
وزن بر حسب پوند=طول بدن * (دور کمر)
300
از ویتامین های گروه B-A-D و همچنین تعادل بین کلسیم و فسفر غافل نباشید
یونجه- جو خیس شده نرم –کاه- کنستانتره- میوه از قبیل سیب هویج و کاهو - ملاس چغندرکه جذب انرژی را آسان میکند –ذرت-ودر هوای سرد دادن مقدار کمی روغن کبد ماهی را در رژِیم غذایی بگنجانیم.
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Feeding the endurance horse
Last century saw the horses change from having important roles in the military, agriculture and transportation to becoming part of the expanding leisure industry. A large variety of competition (show jumping, endurance, racing, eventinng, etc.) have developed to provide a competitive angle to this riding. At first glance these different competitions have very different demands. Flat racing could be considered to be at one end of the duration/ intensity spectrum, with American Quarter horses racing at speeds up to 20 m/s over 400m. In contrast an endurance ride may take place over several days at speeds around 5-6 m/s (on average). Faster speeds during certain stages and rides, however, are now becoming more common specially in some regions e.g. the winner of the 2005 World Equine Endurance Championship race in Dubai covered the 160 km distance at an average speed of around 22.5km/h.
The endurance horse should be fed for health and vitality during training and the competition rides. OPTIMAL endurance exercise performance is highly dependent on sound nutritional management. Good nutrition will only help a horse to be able to compete optimally; it will not improve the intrinsic ability of the horse. Poor or inappropriate nutrition on the other hand may impose limits on an animal´s ability to perform. There is plenty of time for nutrition to play a role both in the preparation for the event itself, which can run over many hours or days. Endurance horses are routinely rested and fed during the ride, further increasing the opportunity that nutrition can have to influence performance. In an endurance situation nutrients that supply energy can actually be ingested, absorbed, circulated to the muscle and converted to energy whilst the exercise is still being performed. The metabolic demands are high requiring the horse to draw heavily on energy reserves and the large sweat fluid losses mean that aggressive replacement strategies are required to keep the horse hydrated.
Energy provision is key.
Feed sufficient energy during training to maintain a body condition score of around 4(on a 1-9 scale)
Forage should be the foundation of all horses diets especially the endurance horse.
Avoid very mature hays and it has been suggested that <30% of the forage should be alfalfa or other high calcium containing hays. Hay with a low to moderate protein content: 8-14% has been recommended.
Alternative higher energy providing fibre source "super fibres" or high digestible fibre source, can beneficially be used as part of the diet- e.g. Sugar beet pulp and Soya Hulls.
Protein is not a preferred energy source. Excess protein intake may be disadvantageous and it has been recommended that endurance horses should not be fed more than 2g of Digestible Protein/kg Bodyweight/day. Quality and nature of the protein fed however is very important. The lysine and possibly threonine content of the diet of competition/actively exercising horses should be considered.
Cereal based feeds will often needed to maintain energy intake- if using corn use cooked or micronised rather than the unprocessed form. As for all horses small amounts of cereal based feeds should be fed per meal and any change made gradually.
Vegetable oil supplementation has a number of potential performance advantages for the endurance horse and levels of 5-10% in the total diet have been recommended. Additional Vitamin E at 100-150iu/100mls added oil should be provided above the recommended basal requirement (at 160-250iu/kg DM intake).
Adequate water and electrolyte provision is essential.
The evaporation of sweat is one of the major mechanisms for the removal of excess heat produced during energy utilisation. Sweat production is accompanied by an obligate loss of electrolytes in particular sodium, potassium and chloride.
Horses even with adequate access to water and electrolytes lend to loose 3-7% of their Body Weight during a long ride.
Provide adequate sodium and chloride intake during training; sodium, chloride with some calcium and magnesium are advised during a ride.
No advantages in pre loading with electrolytes days before a race but slight loading on the day of the race may be advantageous.
Pastes can be a convenient way to provide electrolytes providing that the horse has adequate access to and drinks water - hypertonic pastes etc. given to dehydrated horses can lead to serious problems.
Last century saw the horses change from having important roles in the military, agriculture and transportation to becoming part of the expanding leisure industry. A large variety of competition (show jumping, endurance, racing, eventinng, etc.) have developed to provide a competitive angle to this riding. At first glance these different competitions have very different demands. Flat racing could be considered to be at one end of the duration/ intensity spectrum, with American Quarter horses racing at speeds up to 20 m/s over 400m. In contrast an endurance ride may take place over several days at speeds around 5-6 m/s (on average). Faster speeds during certain stages and rides, however, are now becoming more common specially in some regions e.g. the winner of the 2005 World Equine Endurance Championship race in Dubai covered the 160 km distance at an average speed of around 22.5km/h.
The endurance horse should be fed for health and vitality during training and the competition rides. OPTIMAL endurance exercise performance is highly dependent on sound nutritional management. Good nutrition will only help a horse to be able to compete optimally; it will not improve the intrinsic ability of the horse. Poor or inappropriate nutrition on the other hand may impose limits on an animal´s ability to perform. There is plenty of time for nutrition to play a role both in the preparation for the event itself, which can run over many hours or days. Endurance horses are routinely rested and fed during the ride, further increasing the opportunity that nutrition can have to influence performance. In an endurance situation nutrients that supply energy can actually be ingested, absorbed, circulated to the muscle and converted to energy whilst the exercise is still being performed. The metabolic demands are high requiring the horse to draw heavily on energy reserves and the large sweat fluid losses mean that aggressive replacement strategies are required to keep the horse hydrated.
Energy provision is key.
Feed sufficient energy during training to maintain a body condition score of around 4(on a 1-9 scale)
Forage should be the foundation of all horses diets especially the endurance horse.
Avoid very mature hays and it has been suggested that <30% of the forage should be alfalfa or other high calcium containing hays. Hay with a low to moderate protein content: 8-14% has been recommended.
Alternative higher energy providing fibre source "super fibres" or high digestible fibre source, can beneficially be used as part of the diet- e.g. Sugar beet pulp and Soya Hulls.
Protein is not a preferred energy source. Excess protein intake may be disadvantageous and it has been recommended that endurance horses should not be fed more than 2g of Digestible Protein/kg Bodyweight/day. Quality and nature of the protein fed however is very important. The lysine and possibly threonine content of the diet of competition/actively exercising horses should be considered.
Cereal based feeds will often needed to maintain energy intake- if using corn use cooked or micronised rather than the unprocessed form. As for all horses small amounts of cereal based feeds should be fed per meal and any change made gradually.
Vegetable oil supplementation has a number of potential performance advantages for the endurance horse and levels of 5-10% in the total diet have been recommended. Additional Vitamin E at 100-150iu/100mls added oil should be provided above the recommended basal requirement (at 160-250iu/kg DM intake).
Adequate water and electrolyte provision is essential.
The evaporation of sweat is one of the major mechanisms for the removal of excess heat produced during energy utilisation. Sweat production is accompanied by an obligate loss of electrolytes in particular sodium, potassium and chloride.
Horses even with adequate access to water and electrolytes lend to loose 3-7% of their Body Weight during a long ride.
Provide adequate sodium and chloride intake during training; sodium, chloride with some calcium and magnesium are advised during a ride.
No advantages in pre loading with electrolytes days before a race but slight loading on the day of the race may be advantageous.
Pastes can be a convenient way to provide electrolytes providing that the horse has adequate access to and drinks water - hypertonic pastes etc. given to dehydrated horses can lead to serious problems.
معين ايران نژاد پاريزي
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پاسخ : آموزش استقامت و تغذیه ؟؟؟؟؟
دوستان اواخر مهر ماه مسابقه ی استقامتی در سیرجان که از تمام استان کرمان هم شرکت میکنن قراره برگزار بشه ، میخوام یک اسب واسه 40 کیلومتراز شنبه شروع کنم اماده کردن،با توجه به بازه ی زمانی میشه برنامه دقیق کار کردن با اسب رو واسه من بدین ؟
دوستان اواخر مهر ماه مسابقه ی استقامتی در سیرجان که از تمام استان کرمان هم شرکت میکنن قراره برگزار بشه ، میخوام یک اسب واسه 40 کیلومتراز شنبه شروع کنم اماده کردن،با توجه به بازه ی زمانی میشه برنامه دقیق کار کردن با اسب رو واسه من بدین ؟
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Training Program -- General
Start by conditioning your horse well in advance of the ride season. Many endurance riders condition year round. Most start training in February for the season ahead. Start with slow rides ... two or three times a week. Then add in strength days, interval days (on/offs) and short speed days if the horse has more than two years of training on it.
You can begin increasing the distance, speed, and number of times per week over a period of three months or so until the horse gradually reaches peak condition. Never increase speed and distance simultaneously.
It is a good idea to get a stethoscope and learn what your horse’s normal working and resting heart beat is. Find out how long it takes to recover after a strenuous workout. You should also listen and learn about gut sounds and respiration rates so you are familiar with the normal parameters for your horse.
Begin with a Fitness Test (for you and your horse)
Begin your training program with a fitness test to help determine your horse's current fitness level. It's easier to do this test with a heart rate monitor; however, you can use a stethoscope and stopwatch instead. Select a known distance and have your horse cover this distance at a comfortable pace (strong trot). The distance should be covered according to the work the horse has been doing, so if you've been frequently riding five miles at a time, that distance would work well. Time how long it takes to cover that distance. Next, get off and hand-walk your horse for the next 15 minutes. Take his heart rate at two minutes, five minutes, 10 minutes and 15 minutes and jot down the corresponding numbers. Plot the heart-rate curve when you get home. At the beginning of each month perform the same fitness test and compare numbers. Your horse's rate of recovery should be faster indicating your aerobic work is taking effect.
Horse body conditioning scoring: a useful skill - by Gayle Ecker, B.A., B.Ed. M.Sc. at the Equine Research Centre, a collaboration of organizations. www.erc.on.ca/body.htm
Managing heat scientifically - by Abby Bloxsom, July 2000. www.ectra.org/heatpart1.htm
Feeding and digestion - by Abby Bloxsom, Novmber 2000.
www.ectra.org/heatpart3.htm
Susan Evans Garlinghouse, MS - Equine Nutrition and Research Geek
www.shady-acres.com/susan/
Rider fitness is another important subject. Obviously, the fitter you are, the easier it is on your horse. Consider your options. Conditioning needs to be continued throughout the ride season using your endurance competitions as part of the conditioning process.
You should handle your horse’s feet, mouth, tail, take anal temperatures and generally learn every aspect of their bodies so you know when there are anomalies.
You should be able to discuss all anomalies with the vets, as well as point out any areas of concern. Protection of the horse is essential to ensure a long- term partnership. Teach your horse to trot out at your shoulder on a loose lead. Trot your horses out about 40 metres at the end of each training session to get them used to the trot out required by the veterinary controls.
Teach your horse to start when you start, stop when you stop. Learn about electrolytes for endurance horses. Many people give their horses electrolytes before, during, and after rides.
Start by conditioning your horse well in advance of the ride season. Many endurance riders condition year round. Most start training in February for the season ahead. Start with slow rides ... two or three times a week. Then add in strength days, interval days (on/offs) and short speed days if the horse has more than two years of training on it.
You can begin increasing the distance, speed, and number of times per week over a period of three months or so until the horse gradually reaches peak condition. Never increase speed and distance simultaneously.
It is a good idea to get a stethoscope and learn what your horse’s normal working and resting heart beat is. Find out how long it takes to recover after a strenuous workout. You should also listen and learn about gut sounds and respiration rates so you are familiar with the normal parameters for your horse.
Begin with a Fitness Test (for you and your horse)
Begin your training program with a fitness test to help determine your horse's current fitness level. It's easier to do this test with a heart rate monitor; however, you can use a stethoscope and stopwatch instead. Select a known distance and have your horse cover this distance at a comfortable pace (strong trot). The distance should be covered according to the work the horse has been doing, so if you've been frequently riding five miles at a time, that distance would work well. Time how long it takes to cover that distance. Next, get off and hand-walk your horse for the next 15 minutes. Take his heart rate at two minutes, five minutes, 10 minutes and 15 minutes and jot down the corresponding numbers. Plot the heart-rate curve when you get home. At the beginning of each month perform the same fitness test and compare numbers. Your horse's rate of recovery should be faster indicating your aerobic work is taking effect.
Horse body conditioning scoring: a useful skill - by Gayle Ecker, B.A., B.Ed. M.Sc. at the Equine Research Centre, a collaboration of organizations. www.erc.on.ca/body.htm
Managing heat scientifically - by Abby Bloxsom, July 2000. www.ectra.org/heatpart1.htm
Feeding and digestion - by Abby Bloxsom, Novmber 2000.
www.ectra.org/heatpart3.htm
Susan Evans Garlinghouse, MS - Equine Nutrition and Research Geek
www.shady-acres.com/susan/
Rider fitness is another important subject. Obviously, the fitter you are, the easier it is on your horse. Consider your options. Conditioning needs to be continued throughout the ride season using your endurance competitions as part of the conditioning process.
You should handle your horse’s feet, mouth, tail, take anal temperatures and generally learn every aspect of their bodies so you know when there are anomalies.
You should be able to discuss all anomalies with the vets, as well as point out any areas of concern. Protection of the horse is essential to ensure a long- term partnership. Teach your horse to trot out at your shoulder on a loose lead. Trot your horses out about 40 metres at the end of each training session to get them used to the trot out required by the veterinary controls.
Teach your horse to start when you start, stop when you stop. Learn about electrolytes for endurance horses. Many people give their horses electrolytes before, during, and after rides.
During the hold
The horse needs food and water, and so do you. Throw the water on the prepared bran mash, or dish out the soggy beet pulp. Add in the cut up apples. Now have a quick bite yourself, and something to drink. If you haven’t done it yet, lay away the rider card. Hit the porta-potti on the way to collect your saddle. Leave it upside down to dry a bit, or change saddle pads. Have something more to eat while doing this. Replenish water bottles (or switch to fresh full ones), add or subtract clothing, freshen sun block or repellent, and choke down a wedge of fruit.
With about 10 minutes to go, start retacking. Give yourself time to check gear, tighten the girth, add water bottles, replace bridle, and administer electrolytes if they weren’t in the mash. Get your helmet and fanny pack, mount up, and walk over to the Out timer area. Find your riding buddy, check the girth again, get the OK from the timer, and head out.
The next loop
Your horse will be much easier to control, you will know what to expect, and the second loop will be more fun. Keep in mind that your average speed may be slower, since you aren’t semi-bolting any more. It may also be hotter, or wetter, or have more climbing, or more rocky places, or once comfy clothes may start their attack. This is where the endurance part of endurance ride comes in. If it were totally easy, the six-year-old from next door would be here. But if you concentrate on the trail, and the remarkable animal under you, soon you’ll be back at camp. If you are doing the shorter distance, you are almost finished. If you still have more mileage, do the vet check and hold thing again, and keep on riding.
Finishing
For distances of 50 miles and more, when the horse crosses the finish line, the ride time stops. The horse still has to pulse down, and complete the final vet check, but the finish line is the finish.
Not so with limited distance rides. In order to discourage racing to the finish, the rule is that the ride isn’t over until the horse pulses down. Therefore, when you complete the last loop, you do exactly the same things as after the previous loop - sponge down the horse, untack if you wish, and present for P&R. This time, the “down time” will be the “finish time”. You can take your horse back to the trailer for untacking if not already done, and a bit of a washdown, or you can go directly to the vet check. When the horse passes the final check is the time to celebrate. Briefly.
And finally-
Now back to the trailer. Dump your helmet and fanny pack (aaah!), get something for the horse to eat, like another mash, get a bite for yourself, and then start cleaning up. Begin with your horse, of course.
The water you dragged to your spot yesterday has had a chance to warm up, so it will be fine to use - just avoid putting water on the large muscles of the croup and hips. If the weather is cool, drop a light blanket or fleece over your horse’s back, moving it for sponging as necessary. If you are going to use ice wraps, now is the time. Blanket or not depending on temperature, wind, and weather. After you get the horse cleaned up, freshen the hay, and deal out some more munchies.
Now clean yourself up - it will make you feel much better and is worth the effort. Even just changing shoes and socks will work a minor miracle. Comb your hair. Heaven!
And do something with the tack. At least pull the soggy pad from the saddle, and hang somewhere to dry. Wipe down bridle and bit, and any other pieces, and get them laid away. Dump the horse wash water, and leave the buckets to dry. This will make breaking camp later less of a chore.
By now, your horse’s legs are somewhat dry, so you can wrap with support bandages, if desired.
Finally you get to relax, chomp on chips, and swap stories with the other riders. And there are always stories. Check on the time for the pot-luck dinner, if there is one, then bring over your camp chair, eat and talk, and stand up with pride when you hear your name called for your completion award!
The horse needs food and water, and so do you. Throw the water on the prepared bran mash, or dish out the soggy beet pulp. Add in the cut up apples. Now have a quick bite yourself, and something to drink. If you haven’t done it yet, lay away the rider card. Hit the porta-potti on the way to collect your saddle. Leave it upside down to dry a bit, or change saddle pads. Have something more to eat while doing this. Replenish water bottles (or switch to fresh full ones), add or subtract clothing, freshen sun block or repellent, and choke down a wedge of fruit.
With about 10 minutes to go, start retacking. Give yourself time to check gear, tighten the girth, add water bottles, replace bridle, and administer electrolytes if they weren’t in the mash. Get your helmet and fanny pack, mount up, and walk over to the Out timer area. Find your riding buddy, check the girth again, get the OK from the timer, and head out.
The next loop
Your horse will be much easier to control, you will know what to expect, and the second loop will be more fun. Keep in mind that your average speed may be slower, since you aren’t semi-bolting any more. It may also be hotter, or wetter, or have more climbing, or more rocky places, or once comfy clothes may start their attack. This is where the endurance part of endurance ride comes in. If it were totally easy, the six-year-old from next door would be here. But if you concentrate on the trail, and the remarkable animal under you, soon you’ll be back at camp. If you are doing the shorter distance, you are almost finished. If you still have more mileage, do the vet check and hold thing again, and keep on riding.
Finishing
For distances of 50 miles and more, when the horse crosses the finish line, the ride time stops. The horse still has to pulse down, and complete the final vet check, but the finish line is the finish.
Not so with limited distance rides. In order to discourage racing to the finish, the rule is that the ride isn’t over until the horse pulses down. Therefore, when you complete the last loop, you do exactly the same things as after the previous loop - sponge down the horse, untack if you wish, and present for P&R. This time, the “down time” will be the “finish time”. You can take your horse back to the trailer for untacking if not already done, and a bit of a washdown, or you can go directly to the vet check. When the horse passes the final check is the time to celebrate. Briefly.
And finally-
Now back to the trailer. Dump your helmet and fanny pack (aaah!), get something for the horse to eat, like another mash, get a bite for yourself, and then start cleaning up. Begin with your horse, of course.
The water you dragged to your spot yesterday has had a chance to warm up, so it will be fine to use - just avoid putting water on the large muscles of the croup and hips. If the weather is cool, drop a light blanket or fleece over your horse’s back, moving it for sponging as necessary. If you are going to use ice wraps, now is the time. Blanket or not depending on temperature, wind, and weather. After you get the horse cleaned up, freshen the hay, and deal out some more munchies.
Now clean yourself up - it will make you feel much better and is worth the effort. Even just changing shoes and socks will work a minor miracle. Comb your hair. Heaven!
And do something with the tack. At least pull the soggy pad from the saddle, and hang somewhere to dry. Wipe down bridle and bit, and any other pieces, and get them laid away. Dump the horse wash water, and leave the buckets to dry. This will make breaking camp later less of a chore.
By now, your horse’s legs are somewhat dry, so you can wrap with support bandages, if desired.
Finally you get to relax, chomp on chips, and swap stories with the other riders. And there are always stories. Check on the time for the pot-luck dinner, if there is one, then bring over your camp chair, eat and talk, and stand up with pride when you hear your name called for your completion award!